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Think Like a Lawyer and Talk Like a Geek 2017: Get Fluent in Technology

Speaker(s): Anthony Longo, David M. Lange, Dr. Michael Karasick, Eric Umansky, Gary E. Zimmerman, James Q. Walker, Jay L. Hack, Jonathan T. Kaplan, Keith Wojcieszek, Lee M. Goldsmith, Lori E. Lesser, Maria Gotsch, Megan Duffy, Nicholas S. Goldin, Patricia O’Connor, Peter Brown, Robert E. Freeman, Shaheen Kanda, Sung Ho Choi, Tanya L. Forsheit, Yvette D. Valdez
Recorded on: Sep. 14, 2017
PLI Program #: 185522


Founder and CEO – firstAI (2013 – current)

firstAI extracts hard to interpret information from contracts by harnessing the collective intelligence of teams. We work with banks, law firms and any firms that use contracts extensively.

Vice President, Investment Banking - Credit Suisse (2005 – 2013)

Originated leveraged finance transactions for private equity clients in retail, telecom, consumer products, and other industries. Negotiated and structured over 500 transactions with partner banks, law firms, investors and borrowers.

Associate, Investment Banking Portfolio management – Citigroup (2004-2005)

Credit risk assessment and portfolio management responsibilities for the Technology, Media and Telecom portfolio

Senior associate, Portfolio and Valuation – Capital One (2003-2004)

Created valuation models for high risk consumer debt portfolios.

Consultant – Accenture (1998-2001)

Incubated 2 technology companies during the dotcom boom, provided strategic consulting to companies in diverse industries like consumer products and chemicals. 


Massachusetts Institute of Technology (2001 – 2003)

Master of Science – Major in Engineering, Minor in Finance

University of Mumbai (1996-1998)

Master of Business Administration

University of Mumbai (1992-1996)

Bachelor of Engineering – Chemical Engineering

Anthony Longo is currently Vice President, Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) of Hudson’s Bay Company, one of the fastest-growing department store retailers in the world and the oldest company in North America. With over $14 billion annually in revenue, HBC’s portfolio today includes ten banners, in formats ranging from luxury to better department stores to off price fashion shopping destinations, with more than 480 stores and 66,000 employees globally.  An accomplished information technology leader with over 15 years’ experience in the design and delivery of enterprise information security environments, Anthony is responsible for the development, implementation, and ongoing leadership of the HBC Global Information Security Program as well as strategic oversight to a team of Information Security professionals that provide Risk Management, IT Compliance, Security Operations, Security Architecture, and Identity and Access Management services.

Prior to joining Hudson’s Bay Company, Anthony has held CISO and other Global Information Security Leadership roles in Luxury Retail, Quick Service Restaurant, Insurance, Financial, and Technology Services industries both domestic and internationally, providing guidance to the executive leadership teams by recommending and prioritizing investments and projects that mitigate risk, strengthen defenses, and reduce vulnerabilities.  Anthony holds a B.S. in Information Technology from Sullivan University and information security certifications including CISSP, CISM, PCI-ISA, as well as is a current member of the NJ Evanta CISO governing body.

Gary Zimmerman is the Founder and CEO of Six Trees Capital LLC, the company behind MaxMyInterest. Max helps individual investors and their financial advisors more intelligently manage the cash portion of their portfolios, maximizing both FDIC insurance coverage and yield, while bringing more cash into view. 

Previously, Mr. Zimmerman was an investment banker at Citigroup, where he was a Managing Director and Global Head of Strategic Solutions for Sovereign Wealth Funds, responsible for advising these funds on their direct investment activities globally. In that role, he spent considerable time in Europe, the Middle East and Asia advising funds with more than $5 trillion of assets under management.

Earlier, Mr. Zimmerman led Citigroup’s cross-border M&A business in Japan, advising multinational corporations, financial institutions and private equity funds on their strategic ambitions overseas. Prior to joining Citigroup, Mr. Zimmerman worked as an investment banker at Merrill Lynch & Co. and SG Barr Devlin, a division of Societe Generale, both in New York.

Mr. Zimmerman graduated magna cum laude from Harvard University with a degree in Economics, and subsequently completed an executive education program at the Wharton School of The University of Pennsylvania.


James Walker is a partner in the New York office of Perkins Coie LLP, where he also serves as that office’s Loss Prevention Partner.  He concentrates in government investigations and professional liability. Mr. Walker represents companies and senior executives in government investigations, civil litigation, and employment matters, and defends law firms and lawyers in malpractice claims, disqualification motions and professional conduct advice. Mr. Walker Chairs the New York County Lawyer’s Association Committee on Professional Ethics, is on the Editorial Board of the ABA/BNA Lawyers’ Manual on Professional Conduct and Law360’s Legal Ethics Editorial Advisory Board, and is a member of the New York State Bar Association’s Committee on Standards of Attorney Conduct (COSAC) and Committee on Professional Ethics. He also serves on the New York City Bar’s Diversity, Equity & Inclusion Committee. Mr. Walker frequently lectures and publishes on topics that include internal investigations, technology and legal practice, and professional liability. He received his J.D. from Yale Law School in 1990 and B.S. in Applied Math from Yale College in 1985. 

Jonathan Kaplan is Principal at Kaplan IP Law in Washington State. Before founding the firm in 2003, Mr. Kaplan gained over 10 years of experience at large top-tier IP practices.  Throughout his 25 year career as an IP attorney, he has leveraged his graduate training in electrical engineering and computer science by focusing on high technology patents. 

As a lawyer, Mr. Kaplan has dealt with a broad range of technologies, including: robotics, neuron-level man-machine interfaces, artificial intelligence, natural language processing, computer networks, and sophisticated business methods.  Mr. Kaplan counsels companies in high technology industries, companies using technology in innovative ways, and investment firms seeking IP advice or due diligence.

Keith Wojcieszek is an Associate Managing Director in Kroll’s Cyber Security and Investigations practice, based in Washington, D.C. Keith joined Kroll from the United States Secret Service, where he served with distinction for 15 years. Keith is a strategic problem-solver, who draws on not only his wealth of advanced technical expertise, but also his extensive experience working with diverse international stakeholders on complex transnational investigations and initiatives.

Most recently, Keith led the USSS Cyber Intelligence Section, Criminal Investigation Division, where he managed the agency’s national response to cyber investigative initiatives focused on protecting the financial infrastructure of the United States. In this role, Keith also coordinated complex international investigations that targeted transnational organized crime networks with an emphasis on cyber and information security. Under Keith’s leadership, a number of these cases resulted in the apprehension of highly sophisticated cyber criminals who collectively were responsible for causing over $1 billion in financial losses.

Previously, Keith served with the USSS Cyber Intelligence Section, leading top-priority initiatives and multi-agency efforts, international and domestic, to apprehend high-value targets of cyber investigations across the world. These cases resulted in the arrest of several criminals who caused financial losses of more than $800 million. During this time, Keith also headed the Cyber Incident Operations Center, which had responsibility for coordinating the investigation and response to attacks on the financial infrastructure of the United States that inflicted hundreds of millions of dollars of losses. The investigations spearheaded by this group resulted in 19 individuals being taken into custody and prosecuted.

Earlier in his career, Keith led several domestic and global investigations working with the U.S. Department of Justice Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section (CCIPS) and Office of International Affairs (OIA). From 2004-2010, Keith managed the Electronic Crimes Task Force in support of all electronic crimes investigations, computer forensic examinations, and cell phone data extraction in the Louisville Field Office District. In this role, he also established the operation of a forensic laboratory; provided expert testimony in multiple state and federal cases; and coordinated training for USSS agents, local law enforcement, and industry representatives.

Lori Lesser is a Partner at Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP, where she practices in the Litigation Department and is Head of the Intellectual Property Transactions Practice and Co-Chair of the Privacy and Cybersecurity Practice. Lori advises on all aspects of intellectual property, technology and privacy law, including corporate transactions, litigation, licensing, outsourcing, strategic agreements and counseling.

Her IP transactional experience includes mergers and acquisitions, securities offerings and secured financings, bankruptcy and restructurings, joint ventures, licensing, outsourcing, counseling and other strategic agreements. Her IP litigation practice comprises trial and appellate work and WIPO arbitrations.

Ms. Lesser is also consistently recognized by Chambers USA, The Legal 500 and The Best Lawyers in America, for which she has been named the “Information Technology Lawyer of the Year” for New York City. She has been listed in the “Top 50 Under 45” U.S. IP Lawyers (IP Law & Business magazine), the “Top 45 Under 45” U.S. women lawyers (The American Lawyer), and “The 20 Most Influential Women in IP Law” (Law360). She has been ranked in New York City’s top 100 lawyers and top 50 women lawyers by Super Lawyers. She has received the Burton Award for legal writing and the Award of Excellence from Volunteer Lawyers for the Arts. Her IP work in private equity deals has been featured on the cover of IP Law & Business.

Ms. Lesser has served as a David Rockefeller Fellow for New York City and corporate partner for GreaterNY and serves on the boards of the Partnership Fund for New York City and the Citizens Budget Commission. She is President of the Harvard Law School Association of NYC and serves on the Executive Committee of the Harvard Class of 1988. She is on the Advisory Board of ChIPs (chief IP counsel), the Business Advisory Council of ProPublica, the Leadership Council of Barnard’s Athena Center for Leadership Studies, and the Hunter College Pre-Law Advisory Board. She is a Fellow of the Foreign Policy Association.

Ms. Lesser graduated from Harvard University (A.B., magna cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, 1988) and Harvard Law School (J.D., cum laude, 1993).

Peter Brown has focused on technology law matters in national law firms and boutiques for over 25 years. He is currently the principal of Peter Brown & Associates PLLC, a New York boutique law firm concentrating in information technology, intellectual property and arbitration.

“The Best Lawyers in America” ® publication honored him as the “Lawyer of the Year” in Information Technology Law 2018 for New York City.

Mr. Brown has experience in a wide variety of litigations and arbitrations relating to the Internet, information technology and intellectual property. He regularly appears in both federal and state courts throughout the United States. In addition, Mr. Brown has acted as an arbitrator or mediator in over 70 matters involving IT and IP disputes.

Throughout his career he has drafted and negotiated a broad array of agreements relating to the Internet, outsourcing, cloud computing services, application software, Internet apps and e-commerce.  He has prepared these agreements for domestic businesses and international companies.

Mr. Brown co-authored the leading treatises Emerging Technologies and the Law and Computer Law. He also co-authors a monthly column on Information Technology Law for the New York Law Journal.

Mr. Brown is regularly featured as a speaker at the International Technology Law Association, local bar associations and other professional organizations in the US and abroad. He frequently speaks on the topic of artificial intelligence, IT and IP.

The Best Lawyers in America 2019 edition (affiliated with U.S. News & World Report), rated Peter Brown & Associates PLLC a First Tier National Technology Law firm. Chambers USA, New York Metro Superlawyers and other ratings organization have all given Mr. Brown high ratings in the fields of IT and IP. For further information see

Robert E. Freeman is a Partner and Co-Chair of Proskauer’s Technology, Media & Telecommunications (TMT) Group and a member of the Firm’s Sports Law Group.

Rob began his career as an antitrust and intellectual property litigator before shifting the focus of his practice to transactional work in the TMT and sports space.  Today, he leads a team of TMT and sports attorneys representing clients such as Hulu, DISH / SlingTV, Pac-12, Discovery Communications, Altice USA, fuboTV, Scripps Networks, NFL Media and NBA Media  Rob’s work for these clients includes M&A, joint ventures and strategic alliances, IP licensing and counseling, and the negotiation of complex media rights and content distribution agreements.  In particular, Rob is well-known for being in the middle of the most important operational and revenue-generating transactions for his clients, including both linear and non-linear (e.g., SVOD) content distribution deals over traditional cable, satellite and telco, as well as Internet-based, platforms.

Rob has been featured as a Top Dealmaker in Broadcasting & Cable Magazine, which noted his position “in the thick of things” regarding new television platforms such as TV Everywhere and “over-the-top” (OTT) content.  In addition, as recognized by Chambers USA and The Legal 500, Rob has extensive experience in the area of sports sponsorship, naming rights, licensing, endorsement and talent-related agreements.

Rob is a frequent lecturer on media, sports and technology issues, and co-hosts an annual TMT Event with UBS on emerging issues, both business and legal, in the TMT space.  This year’s discussion focused on “The Year of OTT” and, most recently, Rob led a panel discussion at the #Hashtag Sports Conference on fan engagement.  Rob also is the editor of Three Point Shot, a monthly sports law-related newsletter published by Proskauer, and is a regular contributor to a variety of sports and media related publications.  Rob is the past NYC regional leader of the Princeton Entrepreneurs Network.

A former federal prosecutor, Nick Goldin represents companies, boards, and individuals in significant white collar criminal and regulatory matters, internal investigations and cyber incidents, related civil litigation, and a range of other sensitive situations around the world. Nick also provides counsel on compliance and corporate governance matters, including FCPA/anti-corruption, insider trading, whistleblowers, and trade sanctions.

As Co-Chair of Simpson Thacher’s Privacy and Cybersecurity Practice, Nick advises companies on cyber security incidents and crisis response planning.

Nick is recognized in Chambers USA, where clients say that his “client service is impeccable” and he is “highly responsive, empathetic and able to provide very sound, objective guidance,” and by The Legal 500 and Euromoney’s Benchmark Litigation. Earlier in his career he was named to Global Investigations Review’s “40 Under 40” recognizing the world’s leading investigations specialists under 40 and to Law360’s list of five nationwide “Rising Stars” in white collar litigation. Nick previously served as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York, where he conducted multi-agency investigations and litigated jury trials as a member of the Securities and Commodities Fraud Task Force and the computer hacking group of the Major Crimes Unit.

Nick earned his J.D. from Cornell Law School, where he was Editor-in-Chief of the Cornell Law Review, and his B.A. from Cornell University, magna cum laude and with distinction in all subjects, where he was Assistant Managing Editor of The Cornell Daily Sun. He taught an upper-class course on cybercrime as an adjunct professor at Fordham Law School and has lectured at the Department of Justice’s national training center on cybercrime issues.

Select Representations

  • Insurance company in federal criminal and regulatory investigations concerning a data breach involving customer information and related computer hacking
  • Investment fund in internal investigation following cyber fraud incident
  • Public technology company in SEC investigation of cyber fraud incident
  • National non-profit in data breach incident
  • Public defense contractor in SEC and DOJ investigations concerning alleged securities law violations and accounting fraud
  • Hedge fund in a DOJ and SEC investigations concerning alleged insider trading
  • Private equity advisors in SEC investigations involving fees and expenses
  • Global bank in an FCPA investigation of alleged bribes in the Middle East

Dr. Karasick is responsible for IBM’s World Wide Cognitive Computing Research agenda.  In this role he is responsible for a broad set of technologies, many done in close collaboration with IBM Watson. These technologies include creation optimization of, and creation of new AI technologies, methodologies and tools that support the Cognitive Application lifecycle, new reasoning and learning algorithms, language/speech/image processing, content enrichment, cognitive systems and new acceleration technologies.

Previously, Dr. Karasick oversaw the productization of Watson, responsible for the evolution of Watson from a single application to a unique platform of technical capabilities, along with development of patterns, methodologies and tools for the creation of Watson Applications.

In both his Research and Watson roles, Dr. Karasick has created a unique combination of Researchers and Engineers committed to developing cognitive technologies and products that are transformational for IBM and for our customers.

Dr. Karasick has spent his entire IBM career on the creation and productization of novel technologies, with leadership roles across IBM’s Research and Software organizations: Lab Director in Beijing (collaboration software development) and in San Jose CA (IBM Almaden Research Center); strategy/delivery responsibility for the IBM Research Software Portfolio; IBM’s Business/Technical strategist for IBM’s Software business; Director of Development for mobile and desktop platforms and technologies; IBM CTO for mobile computing; and Director of Development of mobile and sensor/actuator solutions.

Dr. Karasick began his IBM career in 1988 as a researcher with diverse research roles: hardware design; systems and High Performance Computing; programming environments; mobile user experience; speech; pen computing; geometric modeling and robotics; and leader of a multi-company semiconductor fabrication logistics project at Sematech.

Karasick has published numerous papers in the areas of software engineering, geometric modeling, programming languages and compilers and pervasive computing. He is also a prolific inventor, being recognized as an IBM Master Inventor. He received an Honors B.S. from the University of Manitoba, MS from McGill University, and PhD from McGill and Cornell Universities, all in Computer Science.

Maria is the President and CEO at the Partnership Fund for New York City, which is the investment arm of the Partnership for New York City. In addition to leading the Fund’s operations, Maria has spearheaded the creation and operation of a number of the Fund’s strategic initiatives, including:  FinTech Innovation Lab; New York Digital Health Accelerator; Fashion Tech Lab; NYCSeed (seed financing for IT/digital media companies); BioAccelerate Prize NYC (proof-of-concept funding for university-based biomedical research); Arts Entrepreneurial Loan Fund (low cost loans for mid-size arts groups); and ReStart Central and Financial Recovery Fund (assistance and funding for small businesses impacted by 9/11/01).

Prior to joining the Fund in 1999, Maria was a Managing Director at BT Wolfensohn (now part of Deutsche Bank), providing strategic and financial advice related to mergers, acquisitions, dispositions, joint ventures and the development of business strategies. Before starting with Wolfensohn, Maria worked at LaSalle Partners in the New York area and for Merrill Lynch Capital Markets in New York and London. Maria has an MBA from Harvard Business School and a BA from Wellesley College. She was also the recipient of a Fulbright Fellowship to study international relations at the Institut Universitaire de Hautes Etudes Internationales in Geneva, Switzerland.

Mr. Hack is a partner in the firm of Gallet Dreyer & Berkey, LLP, and the head of its financial institutions practice. His primary focus is providing a full range of legal services to banks and other financial institutions. His broad-based financial institutions practice runs the gamut, from acting as issuer’s counsel in public and private offerings by bank holding companies to helping clients address examination report criticisms so that enforcement action can be avoided. He has provides advice on a full range of retail banking matters and regulatory compliance issues to community-based financial institutions, principally in the New York metropolitan area.

Mr. Hack is the former Chair of the Business Law Section of the New York State Bar Association and a member of its Banking Law Committee and its Securities Regulations Committee. He was the principal author of the Banking Law Committee comment letter to the New York State Department of Financial Services (DFS) on its anti-money laundering regulations. His letter was instrumental in convincing DFS to delete an express threat of criminal liability for bank compliance officers. He was also a contributor to the Foreclosure Bill of Rights that DFS promulgated in 2016.

He is a frequent lecturer on a variety of topics touching on banking and financial institution matters. He regularly speaks to newly-admitted attorneys on behalf of the New York State Bar Association regarding the ethical obligations associated with attorney escrow accounts and related counterfeit check scams. Because of his focus on the law of financial institutions, he has been dealing with privacy and related computer security matters for decades. He has recently spoken on these issues to groups as diverse as the Independent Bankers Association of New York and the New York Association of Real Estate Managers.

When not practicing law, Mr. Hack is an avid wine collector and has combined this with his involvement in the legal profession to be an organizer of the Attorney Oenophiles Networking Group in New York City. Mr. Hack is also a member of the Board of Directors of the National Scholastic Chess Foundation and is one of the principal organizers, and “executive chef,” of the annual Thanksgiving dinner and the annual Memorial Day BBQ for the family homeless shelter in White Plains.

Widely considered one of the country’s top privacy and data security lawyers, Tanya Forsheit has advised on high-profile matters involving confidential data and other sensitive information for over 20 years. Ms. Forsheit is Chair of Frankfurt Kurnit Klein & Selz’s Privacy & Data Security Group and Supervising Partner of the Los Angeles Office. She advises on the protection, processing and monetization of data, including matters related to interest-based advertising, privacy policies, mobile apps, cloud computing, smart devices, and data analytics.

Ms. Forsheit has advised on hundreds of information technology deals and transactions on behalf of both service providers and enterprise purchasers, including multilayered AdTech and cloud computing agreements. She is routinely called upon to help clients respond to time-sensitive security events and has advised on hundreds of such incidents. She has worked with over a hundred clients on the compliance requirements of the California Consumer Privacy Act, as well as dozens of multinational clients on the compliance requirements of the EU General Data Protection Regulation. She is currently representing dozens more in preparing for, and addressing the policy implications of, the California Privacy Rights Act, taking effect in January 2023. 

The Legal 500 praised Ms. Forsheit in the 2020 edition as a “leading expert in CCPA” and “one of the leading authorities in data privacy.” The Los Angeles Business Journal included her as one of Los Angeles’ leading professionals “Thriving in Their 40s” in 2020. The Daily Journal named her as one of the top 20 Cyber attorneys in California in its inaugural 2018 list and again in 2020, and has twice included her in its list of "Top Women Lawyers."

Ms. Forsheit lectures widely on technology law topics and has been quoted on privacy and data security in publications such as the Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times, Forbes, ComputerWorld, Venture Beat, and Law360. She is currently an Adjunct Professor at Loyola Law School.

The International Association of Privacy Professionals (IAPP) has certified Ms. Forsheit as both an Information Privacy Professional (CIPP/US) and Privacy Technologist (CIPT). Ms. Forsheit is a past President of the Women Lawyers Association of Los Angeles.

Eric Umansky is a deputy managing editor of ProPublica, where he has overseen two Pulitzer Prize-winning projects. Most recently, a series he edited on “nuisance abatement” laws won the 2017 Pulitzer Prize for Public Service. Umansky also oversees ProPublica’s “no-bullshit” engagement team. He is also a co-founder of Document Cloud. Umansky joined ProPublica back when it started in 2008. Before that he wrote a column for Slate. Umansky has also written for the New York Times, Washington Post, and many others.

Patricia O’Connor manages the global law enforcement subpoena fulfillment function at PayPal Holdings Ltd. Her group is part of Global Investigations in Global Financial Crimes Compliance. The group coordinates across all PayPal products including PayPal, Venmo, Braintree, Xoom, PayPal Working Capital, and PayPal Credit.  Prior to joining PayPal, Patricia worked in the Litigation Department at a large financial institution, leading the Subpoena Escalation group and handling regulatory matters.  She was a prosecutor for 13 years at the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office, where she was Deputy Chief of the Cybercrime and Identity Theft Bureau, and is a graduate of Fordham Law School.

Yvette Valdez is counsel in the New York office of Latham & Watkins, and a member of the firm's Financial Institutions Industry Group and Derivatives Practice. Ms. Valdez has a wide range of experience advising dealers, broker-dealers, investment, retail and private banks, Fintech companies, investment managers, private equity funds and market infrastructure providers on complex regulatory challenges related to their commodity and derivatives trading businesses. Ms. Valdez has developed an advisory practice applying these core regulatory principles to technology innovations in the cryptocurrency, smart contracts and distributed ledger technology space. Ms. Valdez has significant experience in advising client on regulatory matters under Title VII of the Dodd-Frank Act as well as other CFTC, SEC and prudential regulation.

Ms. Valdez’s regulatory practice consists of assisting swap dealers, futures commission merchants, introducing brokers, broker-dealers and commodity pools with their derivatives regulatory compliance requirements as well as advising buy-side clients in connection with their clearing and trade execution requirements. Ms. Valdez also counsels clients in market infrastructure, trading, clearing and settlement in the derivatives markets, including FBOTs, swap execution facilities and designated contract markets.

Ms. Valdez also has substantial experience in advising clients in structuring complex synthetic investments, derivatives transactions and trading platforms in debt instruments, rates, credit, foreign exchange, and commodities as well as futures and options.